Wednesday, August 02, 2006

I just gotta ask the question...

How stupid do both the Lieberman and Lamont camps think black voters are?

First, Lieberman's campaign released a ridiculous flyer implying that Lamont's country club membership makes him racist (sorry Dan, but I don't buy it). Lamont volunteered in urban schools which serve low-income minority students, so clearly the man was socially and racially conscious before this race began.

And then Jane Hamsher, not technically on the Lamont payroll but certainly one of Lamont's cheerleaders-in-chief, manages to see the flyer (and raise it through the roof) by posting a picture of Lieberman with blackface. It was deleted from the Huffington Post website where it was originally posted, leaving the right wingnut blogs to carry it. The progressive blogosphere's silence on it is deafening. There's something very, very wrong when it's the progressives who are silent about someone posting a JPG of the most racist thing someone could do with Photoshop, giving conservatives an opening to posture about tolerance.

It all really begs the question - do the Lieberman and Lamont camps really think that the IQ of black voters is so low that they will actually respond positively to these things? What the hell are they thinking?

Someone needs to realize that the attacks from both camps are only going to hurt the Democratic party and its image to voters - not just in CT, but across the country. Someone in this race needs to come clean and call a timeout on all this. But something tells me that neither side will.

Update: Fleshed out the first full paragraph and changed "campaigns" in the first sentence to "camps" to further clarify that the Hamsher blackface picture was not authorized by the Lamont campaign. To his great credit, I hear Lamont's campaign manager asked Hamsher to take down the photo.

I finally have the a/c working in my new apartment, so I'm moving in tonight. Unfortunately, it doesn't have internet access yet, and won't until I can find a month-to-month service that won't bankrupt me (shoot me an email if you know of one), so I won't be doing evening updates for a couple days. Hope everyone has a pleasant evening, and if you're on the East Coast - stay cool.

138 Comments:

Blogger Sundog said...

I call the screamingly obvious foul. I respect your intelligence too much to even spell it out for you.

8/02/2006 2:11 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

8/02/2006 2:23 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

According to the Lieberdems, nobody ever reads or cares about "leftist blogs". Whatever happened to that?

Who cares about those "looney, fringe, leftist blogs"? Why are they so worried about this "insignificant firedoglake blog" all of a sudden?

Could it be because they're grasping at straws?

8/02/2006 2:31 PM  
Blogger Y.G. Brown said...

Someone in this race needs to come clean and call a timeout on all this.

Well, it won't be Joementum. Oh... I'm sorry. I meant Joementum and the Cbllege Republicans.

I mean really... I couldn't possibly make things up that were this asinine and this funny. Joe Lieberman is paying College Republicans to campaign for him. Delicious.

8/02/2006 2:33 PM  
Blogger Sundog said...

But, just to make it clear, yes, this was despicable, and inexcusable.

If Lamont wins, it is going to be IN SPITE of the "help" from the netroots.

8/02/2006 2:35 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Rage Gursney Jane already lost Barbara Boxer and Naral for Lamont, this is now her next feat--losing the black vote for him too.

The links have been sent around the world by now, I don't know what will happen next. There's a lot of answers that really have to be made about the blackface photo.

Will it blow over?
What will Jesse say?
What will Rev Al say?
What will Al Franken say?
What will Ned say?
What will the reblicans do with it, after they stop drueling and clcking their heels in glee.
Of my GAWD--the RUSH from Rush.
The RUSH to sign up and vote.
The RUSH of speed Lamont will or will not use to distance himself from Jane.
Will Huff huff and puff?
I wish BILL MAher was on. DANG!
Jay Leno, Dave Letterman, Jack Cafferty.

What's gonna happen, I think, is that the info on the back of the Lieberman flyer, while a bizarre idea, may turn around to be a functional piece of literature. It's got Ned's own words. And as a picture is worth a thousand words, and this picture has been copied a thousand times, it may be very bad news for Ned and his Nuts, multiplied into extremely bad news because it does more than associate Ned to his bloggers, it now brings the publics eye and scorn to his bloggers, and as such, in relationship, as Jane is villafied, so will be the rest of the Nuts, and do will be Ned.

Unless I see some rapidly ultra-good PR from the Lamont team, this is a disaster for them. It's not gonna go away.

Jane wanted attention and now she's got it. She's got Ned's attention too.

8/02/2006 2:39 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I saw the "Lieberman" picture on FDL. The photoshop-job made him look like The Prince of Darkness, not an African-American. Seems reasonable to me. Accurate, really.

8/02/2006 2:41 PM  
Anonymous Lamont TruthTeller said...

Ned and his Nuts! They're quite a TEAM!

8/02/2006 2:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Ned and those nut-nut-nut-nut nutters. Those millions of dollars, all of those voters...

What the hell do they think this is, a DEMOCRACY??

8/02/2006 2:44 PM  
Blogger Sundog said...

Is it really so hard to admit this was wrong, you guys? Is EVERYONE an apologist for EVERYONE these days?

I'm getting seriously depressed. Sometimes I feel as though the intelligent, judicious voters the Founding Fathers counted on are simply becoming extinct.

8/02/2006 2:46 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

8/02/2006 3:18 PM  
Anonymous Lamont TrutthTeller said...

Rambo Sambo Jane! She's got class!

8/02/2006 3:36 PM  
Anonymous Lamorick said...

There once was a blogger named Jane
Who's own ego just drove her insane.
She posted blackface
Offending Black race
Lamont should just flog her with cane.

8/02/2006 3:50 PM  
Blogger Sundog said...

There once was a Leader named Lieberman
Who... oh, skip it.

8/02/2006 3:54 PM  
Anonymous Lamont Truth Teller said...

Lamont's trying to divide the Democratic Party.

I'll take a Banana Split Ticket with extra NUTS please.

8/02/2006 4:11 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Can Robo-Clinton Really Save Joe?
What have things come to when Joe Lieberman has to use a recorded message of Bill Clinton to ensure that Connecticut voters won't hang up on him? And why won't Lieberman talk to us about what Clinton calls "the Pink Elephant in the Room" - the Iraq War?

The message on the issues that people really care about has been lost. Fortunately, some enterprising people on the Internets have made an effort to answer a question that many voters must have - Who is Joe Lieberman?

Debunk Joe Lieberman's many twisted lies

Learn how Republicans are financing his campaign

Examine Lieberman's strong support from Supreme Leader Bush and a gaggle of TV and talk radio wackjobs

Learn how College Republicans are campaigning for Joe in the Democratic primary

8/02/2006 4:21 PM  
Anonymous Lamont Truth Teller said...

Ned and his NUTS ! They're quite a Team.

8/02/2006 4:28 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Boy, you are so right about that.. looks like Lamont's really going to steamroller poor Lieberman.

Couldn't happen to a nicer guy though - heh.

8/02/2006 4:40 PM  
Anonymous Lamorick said...

There once was a blog named the Huff,
Writ of Progressive hot air and their fluff.
Along came that Jane,
Who's name is now bane
As Huff had enough of her stuff.

8/02/2006 4:44 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Look, I know the Lieberdems are pretty cracked up and stressed out these days, but this Jane Hamsher obsession is just plain strange.

Even on Huffington Post, Jane Hamsher hasn't gone anywhere. I have provided a link, as you seem to lack the computer prowess needed to happen upon Jane's latest HuffPo blog entry on your own. It was written today:

Link:
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/jane-hamsher/on-the-ground-with-lamont_b_26316.html

I know she's cute and all, but is she really stalking material? I think not.

8/02/2006 4:57 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

That's the post the Huff pulled the pict from.

I see she hasn't posted a reply yet. It WAS really stupid.

And the limericks are hillarious.

8/02/2006 5:01 PM  
Anonymous Lamont Truth Teller said...

Ned and his NUTS ! They're quite a Team.

8/02/2006 5:03 PM  
Anonymous rachelrachel said...

How stupid do both campaigns think black voters are?

No stupider than whites, I imagine. The kind of negative advertising that people think insults the voters intelligence are used because they work. Do you think that white voters were stupid enough to buy the Willie Horton ad? Or that other anti-Dukakis ad with the revolving-door prison? Some people thought they were.

I think the Lieberman flyer is rather clumsy, myself, not really hitting the mark. But I'm not a political strategist.

do the Lieberman and Lamont camps really think that the IQ of black voters is so low that they will actually respond positively to these things?

They're not supposed to respond positively. They're supposed to respond negatively toward the opponent, perhaps at a subliminal, unconscious level.

Hamsher's audience is the already-converted, who are expected to find her picture hilarious.

Someone in this race needs to come clean and call a timeout on all this. But something tells me that neither side will.

I think it's gonna get worse, particularly if Ned wins the primary and we go into "Connecticut for Lieberman" mode.

8/02/2006 5:22 PM  
Anonymous Lamorick said...

The reclusive sly blogger Anonymous
Spends the whole day hand on a mouse
With quick cut and paste
Seems he posts in great haste
As his posts aren't fine or magnanimous.

8/02/2006 5:25 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

With six days left until the primary can Lamont won't be able to ignore the racist overtones in Hamsher's picture, especially if the story of the smear gains traction in the mainstream press. Given the nation-wide interest in the race this kind of story is exactly what Lamont doesn't need, and a looks like a gift for Lieberman.

http://wizbangblog.com/2006/08/02/ned-lamonts-blog-problem.php

Thank you Jane! So sweet of you!

8/02/2006 5:43 PM  
Blogger babablacksheep said...

How stupid do both campaigns think black voters are?

That question dishonestly presupposes that the Lamont campaign did something. It did not. Jane acted on her own, and immediately, the Lamont campaign asked her to remove the photo. The photo itself was published publically, and many of her regular readers asked her to remove it immediately (check my posts and others on her blog).

Compare this to the flyer that was done by the Lieberman campaign, and defended by an official campaign spokesperson. The flyer was an attempt to convey a message under the radar, and was only published for all to see by lefty blogs.

No comparison, my friends.

8/02/2006 6:41 PM  
Blogger Gary Sartori said...

I think it was perfectly OK for the Lieberman campaign to bring up Ned and his racist golf club membership. He knew about this golf club, and the white's only membership for 10 years, and never did anything about it, until he was forced to resign from it because it would have negatively affected his campaign. The guy is total slime anf he should have to explain his actions. The fact he doesn't, says a lot about his character.

8/02/2006 6:51 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

I just read that Lamont asked her to take down the picture--over at FDL she says it was her mistake and she also claims she's not an employee or associated with the Lamont campaign.

If she's not a close associate then was she just a tag-along when he went on Colbert Report? What is that all about? The daily blogging at Huff about Lamont? Not an associate? She's one of his prime (dis)information ministers.

I HOPE Arianna will open up her trap and make a public statement about this--otherwise the Huff loses a lot of credibility and certainly the label of supporting racism by not condoning it, can and should be applied.

This is not going away--it's creeping into all political blogs and in about 12-36 hours it's gonna creep off the blogs and into primetime news and the papers.

It's gonna put a big focus on Lamont's country club membership and his own words about quitting so it wouldn't be a distraction to his campaign. And those words are the words on the back of the controversial Lieberman Flyer.

It's gonna bring a LOT of eyes and everyone is gonna look twice at Ned Lamont.

I never thought I would be saying something good about Rage Gurnsey Jane, but wow! She's been helpful today.

8/02/2006 7:08 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

I was wrong--tsk ;-)

It's already hit the TV.

"This campaign has apparently hit a new low today with something offensive, and that is putting it mildly. The popular Huffington Post blog, which has strongly supported Lamont's candidacy, posted a picture today depicting President Clinton and Joe Lieberman in an Amos n Andy-type doctored picture obviously taken from the Waterbury rally last Monday. In the picture, Lieberman is drawn in blackface and Clinton is wearing dark sunglasses.

Lamont's campaign manager Tom Swan condemned this, calling it very offensive and said he requested that it be removed. He also said that while blogger Jane Hamsher is a supporter, she is not on the campaign pay-roll.

"It's extremely offensive," Lieberman said. "I have been the target of the 'blogs' on a lot of really offensive stuff, stuff I consider lies and smears, but this picture of me with Bill Clinton and me having my face blackened is offensive to people of all races and colors and just doesn't belong."

We don't know the motivation for this offensive blog and have been unable to contact Hamsher, but the photo was removed at approximately 4:00 p.m., judging by the comments made by others on the blog."

http://www.wtnh.com/global/story.asp?s=5232543

8/02/2006 7:21 PM  
Anonymous Lamont Truth Teller said...

Ned and his NUTS ! They're quite a Team.

8/02/2006 7:23 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

8/02/2006 9:22 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Impeach PAC "Lie & Die" Anti-Lieberman Ad to Air in CT

This looks like a very nice TV feature:

The ad, called "Lie and Die," presents Iraq War lies by George Bush, Dick Cheney, and Joe Lieberman," according to a press release announcing that New England Cable News will begin broadcasting it to their 3.5 million subscribers, including 573,000 households in Connecticut.

The new advertisement opens with a shot of President Bush with the word "lie" covering his face next to the quote "Saddam Hussein recently sought significant quantities of uranium from Africa" as his voice from the 2003 State of The Union Address is heard. A loud crash is then heard, accompanied by a shot of Iraqi children killed in Iraq while the word "Die" fills the screen.


Joe Lieberman is being held to account.

Link:
http://www.rawstory.com/news/2006/ImpeachPAC_antiLieberman_ad_to_air_on_0802.html

8/02/2006 9:47 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Tom Delay Endorses Joe!

Joe Lieberman finally got the endorsement he’s been seeking for a long time. On Hannity & Colmes tonight, Tom Delay finally threw his hat into the hotly contested CT race and announced his support for Joe Lieberman over Ned Lamont. I’m sure the Democratic voters of CT will be totally swayed by his late entry into the campaign and some are saying–privately–that it’s the turning point in the race. And of course–Joe’s favorite network, FOX News– supplied the good voters of CT with the opportunity to hear Delay’s words loud and clear.

http://www.crooksandliars.com/posts/2006/08/02/tom-delay-hearts-joe-lieberman/

8/02/2006 10:51 PM  
Blogger Jimbo said...

Dan - I totally disagree there was any implication of Lamont as a racist in the Lieberman flyer (unlike Jane Hampshires cartoon). It simply states the facts, and African American voters have every right to know about Ned's past involvement. It even quotes Ned's own words printed in the NYT for crying out loud! I suppose the NYT implicated Ned a racist too then since they printed it in the first place. Simply put, the flyer effectively points out that white country club going, millionare CEO Ned can not relate to African American voters. This is the truth, not some made up racial slur. This is what happens in politics - you talk about the good things you've done, and your opponent presents the other side of the story. Ned doesn't want this side of the story exposed - well too bad! It's up to Ned to tell black voters what he has done for them, but since he has no real case to make, he claims it's a smear tactic. It's disappointing to see you (Dan) have bought in to their crap.

8/02/2006 11:55 PM  
Blogger babablacksheep said...

Jimbo says Simply put, the flyer effectively points out that white country club going, millionare CEO Ned can not relate to African American voters.

Yes, Lieberman fans, is that the kind of America we want??! A place where it is unthinkable that people from different backgrounds can get along??!

Shame. Shame. Shame on you Liebermanites.



And yes, this incident only demonstrates the moral integrity of the Lamont campiagn which immediately condemned any devisive tactics (although the point of Jane's message was quite different). On the other hand, the Lieberman campaign, including its official spokespersons, proudly support such vile and un-American and devisive race-baiting.

Is this the disgusting "Tomorrow" that Lieberman promises?? A country where white people cannot get along? Very different from the message of Lamont's TV ad with Bridgeport students.

Shame on Lieberman for running such a campaign!

8/03/2006 1:15 AM  
Anonymous Lieberman Truth Teller said...

Ned and his NUTS ! They're quite a Team.

8/03/2006 3:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

But isn't the discussion about Joe Lieberman's judgement?

About his refusal to adequately regulate the financial industry?

About his support for the bankruptcy bill?

About his go-along approach to Bush's authoritarian, anti-Constitutional abuse of power?

About Joe Lieberman's support for, and blatant misrepresentation of, a reckless and counterproductive war in Iraq that's endangered us all?

And aren't Joe Lieberman's lies about "how well" things are going in Iraq just as bad as the lies that got us INTO that war? Don't both sets of lies repeat the biggest mistakes made in Vietnam?

And don't those lies put our soldiers in an always, already untenable, position?

8/03/2006 4:01 AM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

When will Lamont dismiss Jane Hamsher publically? Why hasn't he done so yet. She's only referred to as "a blogger", but this woman is very high-level in his campaign. You don't have to draw a salary to work for someone, so his saying she's not paid is inexcusable.

8/03/2006 4:08 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

This says it all... Lieberman will not only lose the primary, he is losing all his dignity and integrity in the process...

***********

babablacksheep said...

Jimbo says Simply put, the flyer effectively points out that white country club going, millionare CEO Ned can not relate to African American voters.

Yes, Lieberman fans, is that the kind of America we want??! A place where it is unthinkable that people from different backgrounds can get along??!

Shame. Shame. Shame on you Liebermanites.



And yes, this incident only demonstrates the moral integrity of the Lamont campiagn which immediately condemned any devisive tactics (although the point of Jane's message was quite different). On the other hand, the Lieberman campaign, including its official spokespersons, proudly support such vile and un-American and devisive race-baiting.

Is this the disgusting "Tomorrow" that Lieberman promises?? A country where white people cannot get along? Very different from the message of Lamont's TV ad with Bridgeport students.

Shame on Lieberman for running such a campaign!

8/03/2006 6:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quinnipiac Poll

28 point swing since June 8


LIKELY DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY VOTERS.......
Aug 3 Jul 20 Jun 8
2006 2006 2006

Lieberman 41 47 55
Lamont 54 51 40
SMONE ELSE(VOL) - - -
WLDN'T VOTE(VOL) - - -
DK/NA 5 2 4

Lamont’s fav rating: 46%-14%
Liebermans: 37%-34%

By 88%-12%, Lamont voters have made up their mind. 83%-16% of Lieberman voters say the same.

8/03/2006 6:25 AM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

This is NOT the first time Jane has used BlackFace in her blogs--looks liks a pattern of insensitivity. Perhaps Lamont's people need to do some thorough checking of ALL their bloggers before this debacle grows even further.

http://firedoglake.blogspot.com/2005_09_11_firedoglake_archive.html

I'm suprised they didn't check, or even worse, if they did, AND they knew about it, then maybe the insensitivity extends beyond Jane and to Lamont through his team.

8/03/2006 6:39 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Oh yeah...Hamsher is REAL independent from the Lamont campaign:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=28641

Here's Ned Lamont, as quoted in today's Washington Post article on Jane Hamsher's blackface stunt:

Lamont brushed past reporters Wednesday night in Bridgeport, saying: "I don't know anything about the blogs. I'm not responsible for those. I have no comment on them."

And here's Lamont a few weeks ago in a chummy video interview with Hamsher that's up on YouTube. The most relevant portion begins about 1:20 in:

HAMSHER: And what about Blogosphere Day tomorrow? What do you think about Blogosphere Day?

LAMONT: I'm happy for Blogosphere Day. I will be there any way I can because you guys were there for me at the beginning and . . . helped get a lot of the interest and excitement and grassroots in this campaign early on. . . .

HAMSHER: So Ned, you're going to be matching people's donations with your own personal funds. That's really amazing.

LAMONT: That's right. I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I care very strongly about this race, but I can't do it without everybody else. And frankly we've been doing that all along. We've had over 15,000 people--15,000--donate to this campaign. . . .

HAMSHER: That's great. Joe's got defense money and big pharma, and you've got 15,000 people giving $20 at a time.

LAMONT: And some friends at Fire Dog Lake.


And Hamsher has been tagging along with the Lamont campaign for months. She may not be on the payroll, but the idea that she's independent of the campaign is a JOKE.

8/03/2006 6:42 AM  
Blogger Y.G. Brown said...

She may not be on the payroll, but the idea that she's independent of the campaign is a JOKE.

Now now... this site is firmly behind the notion that if you are not directly paid by a campaign then you are not part of the campaign. You need to get on board. Also, Jane Hamsher is not a site administrator at Lamont's own website. This is extremely important, and it puts your whole argument to shame. Surrender now.

Last, this is probably a good time to call Lamont supporters by some childish epithet. Nuts, nazis... take your pick.

8/03/2006 6:58 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

I never said Gerstein was independent of the Lieberman campaign...he obviously isn't. Same with Hamsher and Lamont. Deal with it.

8/03/2006 7:10 AM  
Blogger Susan said...

The plain unvarnished truth is the Lamont campaign was started and fueled by the Republican enablers of the "left" blogosphere.

They need to deal with, as does Lamont.

If Lamont distances himself from liars like Hamsher, who is truly out of her depth commenting on political issues, he needs to bear in mind the saying from the 1966 movie, The Oscar, that "you lie down with pigs, you come up smellin' like garbage."

8/03/2006 7:18 AM  
Blogger babablacksheep said...

From New Yorker, March 2005

... Joseph Lieberman, who is perhaps the most conservative member of the Democratic caucus, said, [Howard] “Dean was wrong on the war and what he was talking about was bad for the country. We’ll see what he does as chairman. If he devotes his energies to building a party at the base, as he talked about doing, good for him. If he continues to be a prominent spokesman on defense policy, I would regret it.”

Lieberman is a study in the dangers of steroidal muscularity, becoming an outlier in his own party. (He has edged to the right as his running mate in the 2000 election, Al Gore, has moved leftward.) His fate was sealed with a kiss, planted on his cheek by Bush, just after the President delivered his State of the Union address. “That may have been the last straw for some of the people in Connecticut, the blogger types,” Lieberman told me. But he is unapologetic about his defense of Bush’s Iraq policy, saying, “Bottom line, I think Bush has it right.” When I asked if he was becoming a neoconservative, Lieberman smiled and said, “No, but some of my best friends are neocons.”


http://www.newyorker.com/fact/content/index.ssf?050321fa_fact


It must be a rude awakening for Sen. Lieberman to realize it is not just bloggers, but large majorities of his own party. And the New Yorker is not a blog.



Oh, and let's move on from the Jane thing. The Lamont campaign rejected it, and she apologized.

8/03/2006 7:31 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

I'm still shocked by this. I think Lamont really needs to ask Jane to get off the bus.

But I'm also still amazed at the Lieberman supporters who are all over this, but saw nothing wrong with the famous flyer. Can you say "hypocrite"?

And vice versa, of course. If you're for Lamont and were outraged about the flyer, you are being hypocritical if you defend Jane's Photoshop creation.

I am thinking what I'll bet Lamont is thinking right now: Support from the blogosphere is very much a two-edged sword.

My mantra has been "Lamont isn't responsible for the bloggers and blog commenters". Jane's Excellent Adventure in Rovian Politics has changed all that. Lamont needs to distance himself, just as Joe needs to distance himself from Republicans. I'm just not comfortable supporting someone who is also supported by volunteers from the College Republicans. If we're talking litmus tests, that's one of mine.

This has been one of the dirtiest campaigns for a primary I can remember. It's going to hurt us.

8/03/2006 7:39 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

Jane's "apology" is a joke.

8/03/2006 7:40 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

How's that Lieberman "Let's Talk About Anything But Tomorrow" bus tour going?

Some big crowds of Lieberman supporters there, from what I'm hearing. 3, sometimes as many as 5 Lieberman supporters at one stop!

Any update on "The Float"? I think that yesterday the Patriots were able to dog the Lieberman campaign with it all day. Great pictures from that piece of civic activism here:

http://ctbob.blogstop.com

8/03/2006 7:40 AM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

The republicans would just LOVE to see Lamont win--and that's frickin scary. How much damage will be done when should this neophyte realize his dream? It is actually a nightmare for the people of Conn who will lose a valiant voice for them.

8/03/2006 7:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

leberman: love the pix - gave "Ned and his NUTS" a hundred bucks, thanks.

8/03/2006 7:55 AM  
Blogger babablacksheep said...

Hello Lieberman supporters,

What do you have to say about the pll today showing Lamont up by 13 points, even though Lieberman is outspending hime 2 to 1 and Lieberman was ahead by 15 points as recently as June 8.




Yes, I know it is easier to talk about the hot weather and the actions of a blogger who is not running for office, but the big news today in the race is the devastating poll numbers, and you haven't said anything. Almost like the way you avoid talking about the war.

8/03/2006 7:57 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Well I certainly have something to say.

Given how this campaign has been run, what a terrible candidate they have, and how rotten his record is, the Lieberman people are very lucky the situation isn't a whole lot worse.

I don't think I've seen a weaker candidate or a worse campaign in my lifetime.

8/03/2006 7:59 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, Katherine Harris is worse. But Lieberman is a terrible candidate.

BTW, I agree with Dan Gerstein and the Lieberman supporters on this website. DO NOT VOTE FOR JANE HAMSHER IN DEMOCRATIC PRIMARY!




Oh, she's not on the ballot? Well, er, never mind.

8/03/2006 8:17 AM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

I don't think I've seen a vbigger LIAR than Ned "I don't know anything about blogs" Lamont.

The story--
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/5/31/19054/8664

and an illustration--
http://hotair.cachefly.net/hotair.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/kos1.jpg

8/03/2006 8:17 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Meanwhile, Over There In Iraq...

Generals Raise Fears of Iraq Civil War

WASHINGTON - The top U.S. military commander in the Middle East told Congress on Thursday that "Iraq could move toward civil war" if the raging sectarian violence in Baghdad is not stopped.

"I believe that the sectarian violence is probably as bad as I have seen it," Gen. John Abizaid, the commander of U.S. Central Command, told the Senate Armed Services Committee. He said the top priority in the Iraq war is to secure the capital, where factional violence has surged in recent weeks despite efforts by the new Iraqi government to stop the fighting.


What's different now about this is that even the Bush Administration is admitting that civil war in Iraq is imminent, if not already underway.

This is Joe Lieberman's Civil War - Bush/Lieberman are responsible for this disaster.

8/03/2006 8:21 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Oh yeah. 77 Senators vote in favor of the war, 90 have voted to continue funding it, and Lieberman is the only one who is responsible for the terrorists killing Americans.

Go talk to Jane Hamsher. She'll listen to you AND paint you in blackface!

8/03/2006 8:25 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

I think one of the most interesting things about the war is the number of casualties. We're now approaching 3000 dead sons and daughters, and about 8-9 times that wounded.

And after all that sacrifice of blood and treasure, Iraq is headed into civil war? Are you kidding me?

Joe Lieberman fought to stifle Democratic opposition to the war. He voted for the war, and has been a cheerleader and enabler for the war and has actively worked to quell any opposition to it, year after year.

This is Joe Lieberman's war, baby! Get used to it.

8/03/2006 8:44 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"In a time of war, we undermine the President's credibility at our nation's peril"

- Joe Lieberman

8/03/2006 8:47 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Yeah. When we read history books in 20 years, this is going to be called "Lieberman's War." Puh-leeeze. He supported it, but he isn't even as strongly pro-war as all Senate Democrats (Ben Nelson comes to mind), much less Republicans.

He had nothing to do with planning it.
He had nothing to do with organizing it.
He had nothing to do with Bush's failures in winning the peace.

Lieberman might support it, but it's Bush's war. But go talk to Jane "Blackface" Hamsher if you are scared of the truth!

8/03/2006 8:49 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.

It is time for Republicans in the White House and Congress who distrust Democrats to acknowledge that greater Democratic involvement and support in the war in Iraq is critical to rebuilding the support of the American people that is essential to our success in that war.

It is time for Americans and we their leaders to start working together again on the war on terrorism."

- Joe Lieberman

Easy to miss the main point when you're dishonest, isn't it.

Compare with Lamont and his siamese twin, Jane "Blackface" Hamsher:

HAMSHER: And what about Blogosphere Day tomorrow? What do you think about Blogosphere Day?

LAMONT: I'm happy for Blogosphere Day. I will be there any way I can because you guys were there for me at the beginning and . . . helped get a lot of the interest and excitement and grassroots in this campaign early on. . . .

HAMSHER: So Ned, you're going to be matching people's donations with your own personal funds. That's really amazing.

LAMONT: That's right. I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I care very strongly about this race, but I can't do it without everybody else. And frankly we've been doing that all along. We've had over 15,000 people--15,000--donate to this campaign. . . .

HAMSHER: That's great. Joe's got defense money and big pharma, and you've got 15,000 people giving $20 at a time.

LAMONT: And some friends at Fire Dog Lake.

8/03/2006 8:52 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sheesh.

Can you be more dishonest?

A CAMPAIGN flyer compared to an independent blogger, a blogger whose actions were immediately condemned by Lamont?

Your principles and integrity are on par with Leiberman. You are truly a LieberDem.

8/03/2006 8:54 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The flyer is wrong, but it's pointless to pretend that Hamsher is not connected to Lamont's campaign.

8/03/2006 8:56 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad Hamsher isn't on the ballot. Otherwise, the Lieberdems might really be able to spin some gold out of this turd.

8/03/2006 8:58 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

History will not be kind to Joe Lieberman

8/03/2006 9:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Too bad Lieberman isn't Bush. Otherwise the Lamontistas might really be able to spin some gold out of this turd.

8/03/2006 9:01 AM  
Anonymous moderation said...

History won't give a damn about Joe Lieberman.

8/03/2006 9:01 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

And my dad can lick your dad.

8/03/2006 9:07 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

How's the Millionaire Lawyer doing with trying to use Lamont's wealth against him as a campaign issue?

Doesn't seem like that is going too well. Everyone seems to know that Lamont would have to be wealthy to even try to go up against Senator Shortride.

Either that, or he'd have to be a sellout, like Lieberman was when William F. Buckley and BuckPAC "launched" Joe's career.

Connecticut Needs A Senator Who's Not A Sellout

8/03/2006 9:09 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Then CT certainly doesn't need Ned Lamont, who has sold himself out to Jane "Blackface" Hamsher and Markos "Screw 'Em" Zuniga.

8/03/2006 9:22 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I agree with the Lieberdems. People should definitely not vote for Jane Hamsher in the primary.

8/03/2006 9:23 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

I agree with the Lamontistas. People should definitely not vote for George Bush in the primary.

8/03/2006 9:29 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

This is HILARIOUS...

Just off the wires here at Lieberman for Lieberman... SUDDENLY, Joe has something to say about the war. And, needless to say, it's the Mother of All Flip-Flops:

Embattled Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman - facing a possible primary defeat Tuesday because of his strong backing for the Iraq war - yesterday launched a Hail Mary attack on the Bush administration's handling of the war.

"I supported our war in Iraq but I have always questioned the way it was being executed," Lieberman said.

"This administration took far too many shortcuts. We continue to suffer the consequences, as do the Iraqi people."

Lieberman, an 18-year veteran of the Senate and a former vice presidential nominee, has been stunned by polls showing anti-war challenger Ned Lamont might win the Democratic primary.

"It sounds like he's finally starting to wake up," said Lamont spokeswoman Liz Dupont-Diehl.


Go Back To Sleep, Joe. We Know You're Lying

8/03/2006 9:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Dear god, what an ass....

8/03/2006 9:40 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Oh really? Seems to me Lieberman has criticized Bush's handling of Iraq before:

ANNOUNCER: George W. Bush courts the National Urban League today, and seven of his Democratic challenges tag along. We'll tell you about the campaign to woo black voters.

As the search for Saddam continues, more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq. And another '04 Dem accuses the White House of bungling the peace.

SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: The Bush administration threatens to give a bad name to a just war.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/28/ip.00.html

That was three years ago, and it was almost the exact same thing as he said yesterday.

Go cry about it to Jane "Blackface" Hamsher!

8/03/2006 9:40 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

We all knew Lieberman thought the war was "just," and we all know that he has criticized Bush's handling of it before. So none of this is anything new, except the lies of you and Jane "Blackface" Hamsher.

8/03/2006 9:42 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

8/03/2006 9:44 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.

It is time for Republicans in the White House and Congress who distrust Democrats to acknowledge that greater Democratic involvement and support in the war in Iraq is critical to rebuilding the support of the American people that is essential to our success in that war.

It is time for Americans and we their leaders to start working together again on the war on terrorism
."

- Joe Lieberman

8/03/2006 9:59 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

[Note: Since this clearly seems to be some kind of campaign turning point, I'm re-posting my previous feature..]


This is HILARIOUS...

Just off the wires here at Lieberman for Lieberman... SUDDENLY, Joe has something to say about the war. And, needless to say, it's
the Mother of All Flip-Flops:

Embattled Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman - facing a possible primary defeat Tuesday because of his strong backing for the Iraq war - yesterday launched a Hail Mary attack on the Bush administration's handling of the war.

"I supported our war in Iraq but I have always questioned the way it was being executed," Lieberman said.

"This administration took far too many shortcuts. We continue to suffer the consequences, as do the Iraqi people."

Lieberman, an 18-year veteran of the Senate and a former vice presidential nominee, has been stunned by polls showing anti-war challenger Ned Lamont might win the Democratic primary.

"It sounds like he's finally starting to wake up," said Lamont spokeswoman Liz Dupont-Diehl.


And, as Aanonymous above pointed out, who could forget these eloquent words on the floor of the US Senate?

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

Does this sound like "opposition" to you?

8/03/2006 10:00 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

One thing I can't understand is why Lieberman thinks he can rewrite history any way he wants. Doesn't he understand that his record is out there, and that people aren't stupid?

8/03/2006 10:07 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

You people actually think if you post the same dishonesty frequently enough, people will start to believe it! Too bad it doesn't work that way.

Here's the whole quote:

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.

It is time for Republicans in the White House and Congress who distrust Democrats to acknowledge that greater Democratic involvement and support in the war in Iraq is critical to rebuilding the support of the American people that is essential to our success in that war.

It is time for Americans and we their leaders to start working together again on the war on terrorism.
"

Sounds like a man trying to unite the country. Too bad you're too dishonest to acknowledge that is the main point of the speech.

Go cry about it to Jane "Blackface" Hamsher!

8/03/2006 10:08 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Oh, and here's some history with Lieberman criticizing Bush on Iraq THREE YEARS AGO, in its original form for your consumption:

NNOUNCER: George W. Bush courts the National Urban League today, and seven of his Democratic challenges tag along. We'll tell you about the campaign to woo black voters.

As the search for Saddam continues, more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq. And another '04 Dem accuses the White House of bungling the peace.

SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: The Bush administration threatens to give a bad name to a just war.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/28/ip.00.html


He said almost the exact same thing yesterday. We all knew Lieberman thought the war was "just," and we all know that he has criticized Bush's handling of it before. So none of this is anything new, except the lies of you and Jane "Blackface" Hamsher.

8/03/2006 10:10 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Check Out This Photo from the Tomorrow Doesn't Look Good Bus Tour

Link:
http://ctbob.blogspot.com/2006/08/happiest-aggressive-interrogator.html

Poignant Stuff.

8/03/2006 10:15 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Check out this photo from Jane "Blackface" Hamsher:
http://www.redstate.com/redstate/huffpo_before.jpg

Very poignant stuff.

8/03/2006 10:19 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

[I'm re-posting a feature from earlier today, as this seems to be some kind of campaign turning point - Enjoy!]

This is HILARIOUS...

SUDDENLY, Joe has something to say about the war. And it's the Mother of All Flip-Flops:

Embattled Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman - facing a possible primary defeat Tuesday because of his strong backing for the Iraq war - yesterday launched a Hail Mary attack on the Bush administration's handling of the war.

"I supported our war in Iraq but I have always questioned the way it was being executed," Lieberman said.

"This administration took far too many shortcuts. We continue to suffer the consequences, as do the Iraqi people."

Lieberman, an 18-year veteran of the Senate and a former vice presidential nominee, has been stunned by polls showing anti-war challenger Ned Lamont might win the Democratic primary.

"It sounds like he's finally starting to wake up," said Lamont spokeswoman Liz Dupont-Diehl.


And, as Anonymous above pointed out, who could forget these eloquent words on the floor of the US Senate, spoken by Joseph I. Lieberman?

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

Does this sound like "questioning" to you?

8/03/2006 10:30 AM  
Blogger babablacksheep said...

lamont/hamsher08, I hear you. You are angry with what Jane did. I criticized the photo immediately on her website (FDL) and then she withdrew it. Now get over it.


You should be spending your energy explaining Joe's position on the War. First we hear that he was supportive of the president, even though he knew it pissed off a lot of Democrats, because he was principled. (And that we challenge the president at our nation's peril.) Now we hear that he was a critic all along.

I don't get it?

Kind of like his claim that Lamont is a pawn of the Republicans like Weicker who votes with Republicans 90% of the time, but is also a leftwing extremist taking the party too far left of center.

I don't get it?

And the voters don't like these contraditions and hypocracy. Makes it sound like Joe will say anything to get elected.

Seems to look like the voters are not responding so well to the campaign. Have you seen the polls?

8/03/2006 10:32 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Hahaha...keep trying. But we'll never stop posting the whole truth:

ANNOUNCER: George W. Bush courts the National Urban League today, and seven of his Democratic challenges tag along. We'll tell you about the campaign to woo black voters.

As the search for Saddam continues, more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq. And another '04 Dem accuses the White House of bungling the peace.

SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: The Bush administration threatens to give a bad name to a just war.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/28/ip.00.html


He said almost the exact same thing yesterday. We all knew Lieberman thought the war was "just," and we all know that he has criticized Bush's handling of it before. So none of this is anything new, except the lies of you and Jane "Blackface" Hamsher.


And of course, the whole quote:

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.

It is time for Republicans in the White House and Congress who distrust Democrats to acknowledge that greater Democratic involvement and support in the war in Iraq is critical to rebuilding the support of the American people that is essential to our success in that war.

It is time for Americans and we their leaders to start working together again on the war on terrorism
."

Sounds like a man trying to unite the country. Too bad you're too dishonest to acknowledge that is the main point of the speech.

Go cry about it to Jane "Blackface" Hamsher!
http://www.redstate.com/redstate/huffpo_before.jpg

8/03/2006 10:32 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

You toss the voters a load of crap, and we'll keep throwing it right back in your face.

Long as you keep telling only the parts of the story that suit you and always ignore the rest, we won't stop. Sorry! The distortions of you and Jane "Blackface" Hamsher are no match for reality!

8/03/2006 10:34 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Could someone please explain that Jane "Blackface" Hamsher is not a candidate in this race? I don't know why this is so hard for them to understand.

8/03/2006 10:36 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Wow - a "Democratic" campaign enthusiastically posting links to Red State..

Isn't that something?

8/03/2006 10:38 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

As soon as you stop idiotically connecting Lieberman and Bush, we'll stop connecting Lamont and Hamsher.

Sorry, but George Bush isn't following around Joe Lieberman on the campaign trail, raising money for him, and doing his campaign's dirty work for him. And - oh yeah - Lieberman has RUN AGAINST BUSH TWICE.

So stop being a hypocrite, or go cry about it to "Blackface" Hamsher.

8/03/2006 10:39 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Well, tell your friends in the progressive blogosphere to stop being cowards and post the picture. Because right now, only the reactionary blogs are carrying it.

Isn't it funny how Lamont's internet supporters cower in a corner and hide the truth when it's inconvenient to them?

8/03/2006 10:41 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Believe me, no one is asking you to stop. You are making the arguments against voting for Lieberman much better than we ever could.

8/03/2006 10:43 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Believe me, no one is asking you to stop. You are making the arguments for voting for Lieberman and against the liars who distort his record much better than we ever could.

8/03/2006 10:44 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Can Robo-Clinton Really Save Joe?
What have things come to when Joe Lieberman has to use a recorded message of Bill Clinton to ensure that Connecticut voters won't hang up on him? And why won't Lieberman talk to us about what Clinton calls "the Pink Elephant in the Room" - the Iraq War?

The message on the issues that people really care about has been lost. Fortunately, some enterprising people on the Internets have made an effort to answer a question that many voters must have - Who is Joe Lieberman?

Debunk Joe Lieberman's many twisted lies

Learn how Republicans are financing his campaign

Examine Lieberman's strong support from Supreme Leader Bush and a gaggle of TV and talk radio wackjobs

Learn how College Republicans are campaigning for Joe in the Democratic primary

8/03/2006 10:46 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Oh yeah...Hamsher is REAL independent from the Lamont campaign:

http://www.tnr.com/blog/theplank?pid=28641

Here's Ned Lamont, as quoted in today's Washington Post article on Jane Hamsher's blackface stunt:

Lamont brushed past reporters Wednesday night in Bridgeport, saying: "I don't know anything about the blogs. I'm not responsible for those. I have no comment on them."

And here's Lamont a few weeks ago in a chummy video interview with Hamsher that's up on YouTube. The most relevant portion begins about 1:20 in:

HAMSHER: And what about Blogosphere Day tomorrow? What do you think about Blogosphere Day?

LAMONT: I'm happy for Blogosphere Day. I will be there any way I can because you guys were there for me at the beginning and . . . helped get a lot of the interest and excitement and grassroots in this campaign early on. . . .

HAMSHER: So Ned, you're going to be matching people's donations with your own personal funds. That's really amazing.

LAMONT: That's right. I'm putting my money where my mouth is. I care very strongly about this race, but I can't do it without everybody else. And frankly we've been doing that all along. We've had over 15,000 people--15,000--donate to this campaign. . . .

HAMSHER: That's great. Joe's got defense money and big pharma, and you've got 15,000 people giving $20 at a time.

LAMONT: And some friends at Fire Dog Lake.


And Hamsher has been tagging along with the Lamont campaign for months. She may not be on the payroll, but the idea that she's independent of the campaign is a JOKE.

8/03/2006 10:48 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Do you want us to see if we could get you a date with Hamsher? You really are hooked on her, you little love-puppy!

8/03/2006 10:59 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

You want me to get you a date with Matt? You guys hang around here so much that he might need a restraining order!

8/03/2006 11:07 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

Lamont/Hamsher, I'm as unhappy about Hamsher as you but I have never seen such a string of dishonest argument. You have so much hate I think you're Marshall Wittmann posting incognito.

Your points are just stupid. We should pay more attention to the Lamont/Hamsher axis than to the Lieberman/Bush axis? Do you really expect to win anyone over with arguments like that?

Seems like you guys would look at some poll numbers and realize this gritted-teeth, hate-filled, attack-dog style isn't working for you.

But by all means, please keep it up for just one more week.

8/03/2006 11:10 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

I cannot speak for others here, but I definitely want to give that a miss.

But thanks.

8/03/2006 11:11 AM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

I'll keep it up as long as L4L here does. Say what you will, but at least the posts I make are not filled with half-truths, even if you don't agree with my interpretations of the relationships.

8/03/2006 11:13 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Tom Delay Endorses Joe Lieberman for Senate

At this critical juncture, don't we need someone we can really trust to help us decide who is the best choice for US Senate in the Connecticut race?

Well, who better than the principled Tom Delay to help us out with that conundrum?

Tom has endorsed Joe in the CT Senate Race

Thank you, Tom Delay. Who would know more about the character and principles of Joe Lieberman?

8/03/2006 11:17 AM  
Anonymous moderation said...

What a joke...DeLay didn't endorse him and you know it. He said he agreed with Lieberman on Iraq, but that otherwise Lieberman is a liberal. And God knows Tom DeLay is not a liberal.

Call the foul.

8/03/2006 11:19 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

You aren't going to hear me defending L4L, he can speak for himself, and his style and mine bear little resemblance.

OR Hamsher; if you find my blog you'll see I unloaded on her bigtime yesterday, and even more today.

Ironically, I have yet to hear even ONE Lieberman supporter - and I've been listening - disavow the vile Marshall Wittmann's hate-filled screeds, or even acknowledge him as part of their campaign.

None of this has anything to do with the race, really.

8/03/2006 11:19 AM  
Anonymous moderation said...

Good points, Sundog.

8/03/2006 11:24 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

A Truth-Teller Tells the Truth - TO LIEBERMAN

I've been telling my close friends for days now that the more I read about Lieberman, the more angry I get and the more I want to physically hurt him. I had decided that I needed to stop reading about Lieberman - just cast my absentee ballot, then just forget the whole primary race and relax on my vacation.

So, when I heard he was going to be walking in, I vented with a few exclaimations of "I don't fucking believe this!" (it's my vacation, I'm trying to relax and this guy shows up at my library!?) I turned to the woman next to me and said "just, someone, please; don't let me hit him"

I saw him come in the door and tried to stay calm. As he got up even with me, close enough that I could have grabbed his arm or pinched his cheek, he smiled toward me and I lost it.

With my voice shaking, I calmly, firmly and with just a little break to my voice said: "I'm very disappointed in you, Senator Lieberman." I then walked away, coz if I stood there much longer, I may have been unable to stop myself from doing something inappropriate. Then I would most likely miss my vacation and end up spending time as the guest of the Town of West Hartford -or the State of Connecticut. (In fact, I'm lucky I wasn't wearing my "PEACE" T-shirt that my husband brought me from Israel with PEACE in english, hebrew and arabic. Goodness knows what might have happened to me if I had worn that!)

As I walked away, Lieberman took the discourse to the next (Fox News) level. (He's quite the pitbull these days.) "You should get the truth!" he shouted out at me. Without turning or breaking stride I yelled loud and proud: "I do have the truth! YOU need to WAKE UP!"

I was then followed out to the curb by a nice young man (who said he was a reporter with the New London something or another). First he asked me what I said to Senator Lieberman to get him to yell out "you should get the truth" then he asked if it was the war.

I sighed and babbled like a mad woman while he jotted down a lot of stuff. I babbled about Lieberman's Lies, Social Security, telling anyone who disagreed with the President that they should shut up, about having more Non-Connecticut money in the primary race as well as just having more money in the race period. I babbled about how Lieberman doesn't publish his stops in advance "coz he's afraid people like me will show up on purpose!" I babbled about my fear for our country and how Lieberman wasn't doing anything to stand up for it. I was incoherent. At one point I said "am I against the war? yeah! but I'm against all war" - I dug two books out of my book bag and shook 'em at the poor guy. "Why Didn't The Press Shout? American and International Journalism During the Holocaust" and "Hitler's Willing Executioners: Ordinary Germans and the Holocaust" - I told him I was desperately trying to understand what's going on in our country and how it can be stopped. I told him my next stop was the Town Clerk's office to file my absentee ballot.

He asked me what I thought would happen Tuesday. I told him what I thought. Lamont has a chance. I think he will win the primary. However, Lieberman will run as an independant (at this point, I stopped, put my hand on his arm and said "Excuse me, He'll run as a 'Connecticut for Lieberman'" and rolled my eyes) and with the right wing noise machine he might just win his "do over" and screw us all.

I mentioned Wellstone. I lived in Minnesota at the time and there is certainly the same feel in the air here today. I held my left (without thinking, and unintentionally) hand out, palm up and said "In the democratic party, you had Wellstone over here - the poster boy for integrity. On the other hand (held out my right hand, palm up, like a balance) you have Lieberamn, who's been lying about everything."

We chatted a bit about Wellstone.

He thanked me for my time, and had the grace to chuckle politely when I asked him to not "make me out too crazy." I asked him where the kiss float was and he said he didn't know "it was at the last stop..."

So that's it. The encounter that got me inspired enough to write my first blog entry. I know it's no big deal in the big picture of things, but the very fact that I said something and I'm not in jail right now is huge for me.


Link:
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2006/8/3/134316/9203

What Do You Know.. the Good Senator Talked To A Voter!

8/03/2006 11:29 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

Yeah, that helps a lot, posting messages from borderline-violent Kossacks. That's the way to show Lieberman supporters we're not hate-filled maniacs.

I think I'll step back from this dogfight for a while. Not much sense being made by anyone today; just a lot of fratricide.

Y'all have a good day and take some deep breaths.

8/03/2006 11:35 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

I think it's an important tale, and important to remember that this very concerned Connecticut voter did restrain himself.

He spoke passionately about his country and what's wrong with Senator Sellout. Persuasively making the point to library patrons in the process, no less.

There is a lot of emotion in this race. And why not? People are extremely upset about the decline of our country.

A decline that has been facilitated by Joe Lieberman every step of the way

8/03/2006 11:38 AM  
Anonymous moderation said...

Restrained himself from hitting a man he's never met before? Wow. What self-control. He should run anger management classes.

On another note - have a good day, Sundog.

8/03/2006 11:46 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

They sure could use some anger management classes at this site. I feel for the Lieberdems though, losing is tough.

8/03/2006 11:49 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Sorry you mistake "telling the truth" for "anger." Besides, every journalist in the world covering this race has talked about the anger of the ANTI-Lieberman crowd. Like the guy who nearly punched Lieberman in the face just because he disagreed with him.

8/03/2006 12:01 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Did anyone notice that a poll came out today showing Lamont up by 13 points, after being an unknown behind by 15 points as recently as June 8.

Pretty big news, but strangely no mention of it here.

Can Lieberman supporters give me some confidence that Joe has a plan to win?

Thanks.

8/03/2006 12:01 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Joe Plans to Win with Iraq Flip-Flop

SUDDENLY, Joe has something to say about the war. And it's the Mother of All Flip-Flops:

Embattled Connecticut Sen. Joe Lieberman - facing a possible primary defeat Tuesday because of his strong backing for the Iraq war - yesterday launched a Hail Mary attack on the Bush administration's handling of the war.

"I supported our war in Iraq but I have always questioned the way it was being executed," Lieberman said.

"This administration took far too many shortcuts. We continue to suffer the consequences, as do the Iraqi people."

Lieberman, an 18-year veteran of the Senate and a former vice presidential nominee, has been stunned by polls showing anti-war challenger Ned Lamont might win the Democratic primary.

"It sounds like he's finally starting to wake up," said Lamont spokeswoman Liz Dupont-Diehl.


And, as Anonymous above pointed out, who could forget these eloquent words on the floor of the US Senate, spoken by Joseph I. Lieberman?

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war, we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation's peril."

Does this sound like "questioning" to you?

8/03/2006 12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Has the Lieberman campaign apologized for the race-baiting flyers yet?

8/03/2006 12:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I don't think so, but I think the Lieberdems have established that they have the HOTS for Jane Hamsher!

8/03/2006 12:06 PM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

Hahaha...keep trying. But we'll never stop posting the whole truth:

ANNOUNCER: George W. Bush courts the National Urban League today, and seven of his Democratic challenges tag along. We'll tell you about the campaign to woo black voters.

As the search for Saddam continues, more U.S. soldiers die in Iraq. And another '04 Dem accuses the White House of bungling the peace.

SEN. JOE LIEBERMAN (D), CONNECTICUT: The Bush administration threatens to give a bad name to a just war.

http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0307/28/ip.00.html


He said almost the exact same thing yesterday.

We all knew Lieberman thought the war was "just," and we all know that he has criticized Bush's handling of it before. So none of this is anything new, except the lies of you and Jane "Blackface" Hamsher.


And of course, the whole quote:

"It is time for Democrats who distrust President Bush to acknowledge that he will be Commander-in-Chief for three more critical years, and that in matters of war we undermine Presidential credibility at our nation’s peril.

It is time for Republicans in the White House and Congress who distrust Democrats to acknowledge that greater Democratic involvement and support in the war in Iraq is critical to rebuilding the support of the American people that is essential to our success in that war.

It is time for Americans and we their leaders to start working together again on the war on terrorism.
"

Sounds like a man trying to unite the country. Too bad you're too dishonest to acknowledge that is the main point of the speech.

Go cry about it to Jane "Blackface" Hamsher!

8/03/2006 12:08 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I think the Lieberdems are right. Joe Lieberman could probably do pretty well against Jane Hamsher in the Senate race.

8/03/2006 12:09 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Here's what I just don't understand. For weeks and weeks, we've been hearing from these Lieberdems how pathetic those "lefty, liberal blogs" are. Whatever happened to that?

Now all of a sudden they're fixated on the "irrelevant liberal blog" Huffington Post and Jane Hamsher, and can't talk about anything else?

I guess they're now in the "throes of victory", or something like that.

8/03/2006 12:13 PM  
Anonymous lamont/hamsher08 said...

I don't remember too many people calling them irrelevant. And all we're doing is pointing out that when you cast your lot with dogs like Lamont has, you can't simply walk away from the stench they leave behind.

8/03/2006 12:15 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Joe Sez: "Stay Around for November"

From a story in today's Washington Post:

The most enthusiastic voter Lieberman ran into on his rounds was someone who cannot help save him on Tuesday. Susan Bushey said she saw Lieberman's bus in Colchester and, with four of her five children in tow, pulled into the parking lot to offer moral support.

"Good luck to you," she said to him. "I'm a Republican and I want to vote for you."

"Well, stay around for November," Lieberman said.


Does Lieberman have any constituency left within the Democratic Party in Connecticut? Probably, but it's unclear how big it is. Guess we'll find out on Tuesday.

8/03/2006 12:18 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

Anyone notice that the rhetoric here is a bit more unbalanced than the tone of the post? Dear lord...call BS against both sides.

8/03/2006 12:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I doubt if anyone pays much attention to those front-page posts. That stuff is all just drivel and lies.

8/03/2006 12:33 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

You're referring to the front pages of firedoglake and MyDD? I totally agree.

What exactly on the front page of this site is a lie? Not something you disagree with, but a lie. The liars are the people on the anti-Lieberman sites painting Lieberman in blackface and posting quotes out of context as if they're the whole story.

I don't agree with everything on this site. But calling it a lie is just bogus.

8/03/2006 12:40 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

l4l - good posts today, thanks for the time/effort

8/03/2006 12:41 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

Oh, and I forgot to mention - you can file some of lamont/hamsher's comments under "dishonest" as well.

8/03/2006 12:42 PM  
Blogger Y.G. Brown said...

I never said Gerstein was independent of the Lieberman campaign...he obviously isn't.

OK... that's one. Who else is on board here? So far, Smith and Gerstein are claiming that Gerstein was independent of the Lieberman campaign, while even the circus clown who posts the same comment eleven times in a row can acknowledge the ridiculousness of this idea.

By the way... was there some picture with Joe Lieberman in blackface posted on the internets somewhere? I missed it. Maybe it didn't fit through the tubes in my internets.

8/03/2006 12:45 PM  
Blogger Y.G. Brown said...

I like that CNN transcript, LH08. My favirites parts are:

But his most interesting criticism, as you mentioned, was his attack on fellow Democrats, both those like Howard Dean that opposed the war in the first place and those that voted with him to give the president the authority to go to war.

And:

LIEBERMAN: The Bush administration threatens to give a bad name to a just war.

But by their words, some in my party are sending out a message that they don't know a just war when they see it. And more broadly, that they're not prepared to use our military strength to protect our security and the cause of freedom.

And:

Senator Lieberman also singled out two pro-war Democrats for criticism today, Dick Gephardt and John Kerry. John Kerry's spokesman, Robert Gibbs, said he was a little puzzled by the criticism because they both voted the same ways and have had the same criticisms of the president since the war.

And, of course:

But most interesting here today, Candy, may well be simply that Lieberman came out and supported -- felt it necessary to reiterate his strong support for the war in the first place.

Yes, three years ago Joe Lieberman said one sentence that was critical of the President. This sentence was preceded by, and immediately followed by, attacks on national Democratic leaders John Kerry, Richard Gephardt, and Howard Dean.

Mmmm... Joementum.

8/03/2006 12:50 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

When did Smith say Gerstein is independent?

8/03/2006 12:51 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Lieberman: Connecticut Girl Crushed By Lamont Signage

See the shocking photo here

8/03/2006 12:54 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

moderation said...

When did Smith say Gerstein is independent?


When he posted the disclaimer, "This website is not funded by, authorized by, or affiliated with any campaign or candidate." and at the same time had Dan Gerstein as one of only two regular contributors on this site.

As a reader of this blog, I sincerely thought that Den Gerstein was NOT affiliated with this website, and I was fooled.

8/03/2006 1:27 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

The Lieberdems have been able to fool some, but not me.

I started my truth-telling initiative on this site as soon as I found out about it - realizing that this site couldn't possibly be anything but a propaganda vehicle for the Lieberman campaign.

8/03/2006 1:37 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

But how is that statement untrue? Gerstein was not affiliated with the Lieberman campaign until Monday, and he left the blog (or, more likely, Smith kicked him off) after he joined up.

Besides, does the fact that Bill Maher posts on Huffington Post mean that the site is affiliated with HBO? It seems obvious that this is Smith's site and that he never lied about Gerstein's affiliation.

You won't hear me defend Gerstein, particularly since he defended that flyer (I actually despise Gerstein), but calling Smith a liar is just a bogus charge. At worst, he was duped by Gerstein. Not that that's a good thing, but it doesn't make him a liar.

8/03/2006 1:38 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

Yeah...no one could possible disagree with you unless they were being paid. Geez. Can I borrow a cup of ego from you at some point?

8/03/2006 1:39 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

You know something? I think a lot of people think that you just can't believe a word that comes spewing out of the mouths of Lieberman or his vicious campaign.

Look at the Iraq War flip-flop today. Lieberman needs to change the name of the new "Cut-And-Run" party to the...

Say Anything Party

Because that's what it is. Just say whatever you have to say to get elected.

8/03/2006 1:41 PM  
Anonymous moderation said...

Sounds like all politicians. Why should Joe be any different?

8/03/2006 1:45 PM  
Anonymous Daniel DiRito said...

Read a satirical critique of the battle being waged amongst Democrats in the Lieberman v. Lamont Senate race coined "The Hatfield's & McCoy's"...here:

www.thoughttheater.com

8/03/2006 1:57 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Constitution State deserves a Senator who will stand up for the Constitution

8/03/2006 2:00 PM  
Blogger Y.G. Brown said...

At worst, he was duped by Gerstein. Not that that's a good thing, but it doesn't make him a liar.

Actually, at best he was duped. And to be fair, I've had my money on "duped" pretty much from jumpstreet.

8/03/2006 6:31 PM  

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