Wednesday, July 19, 2006

There was never any doubt...

The TPM Cafe blog ran a piece earlier today saying that Lieberman was "mulling" a run on the GOP line. The person who wrote the initial post did not speak at the time to anyone other than a rather low-ranking member of his press staff. DailyKos and other outlets quickly picked up on the piece, saying that Lieberman was "mulling" a GOP bid.

Such a claim was obviously bogus from the start. The reality is that the people at TPM were simply unable to get ahold of someone sufficiently empowered to speak for Lieberman, and so speculated that the non-response of the staffer somehow meant Lieberman was "mulling" becoming a GOPer. I doubt even the Kossacks bought into the story; they just wanted another excuse to get "Lieberman" and "Republican" in the same sentence for the umpteenth time.

Lieberman has said from the start that he will caucus with Democrats in the next Congress, no matter what. But just so even the fiercest Lieberhater couldn't say otherwise, the Lieberman campaign released this statement within just a couple hours of the TPM blog's posting:

"He has said he's always been a Democrat, and he'll always be a Democrat."

Asked if he'd rule out accepting the line, Steinfels said: "Joe Lieberman will never run as a Republican. Never."

Three hours later, DailyKos has still not posted an update acknowledging that Lieberman has never and will never be a Republican.

Update: Kos did post a correcton to his original blog, saying "Lieberman finally rules running as a Republican (emphasis mine)." It took the Lieberman camp under 4 hours to reply, which is lightning fast for a campaign office. In contrast, it took Kos 5 hours to post his correction after TPM posted Lieberman's response. So why did he drop the "finally" in there?

Lieberman has always said he will caucus with the Democrats no matter what the outcome of this election, and has never said anything that could lead even the greatest Lieberhater to believe that he would ever run on the GOP line. To pretend otherwise is, shall we say, disingenuous.


Anonymous CentristDem said...

Yeah, let's see them try to spin this one.

7/19/2006 4:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

I have a better idea. Why don't the Lamontistas just take the time to stay on topic rather than changing the subject of the post is an inconvenient truth for them?

7/19/2006 4:59 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Oops...that last line should read "because the post is an inconvenient truth for them"

7/19/2006 5:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why would Lieberman want to run as a Republican when he has his own political party?

7/19/2006 5:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He'll caucus as a Democrat. No one would question that Bernie Sanders is a progressive despite the fact that he isn't running on the Dem line.

7/19/2006 5:26 PM  
Anonymous Leksah said...

Kos & krew modus operandi has been to lie, lie, and lie some more.

they won't report any facts if it conflicts with their destructive agenda.

luckily their dishonesty & viciousness is becoming more and more apparent to the rational, reasonable public.

7/19/2006 6:59 PM  
Anonymous CentristDem said...


7/19/2006 7:03 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Anyone here have any extra "Kiss Buttons"

They're going for 10 bucks a peice on EBAY!!

7/19/2006 7:50 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

How Could the NYT print this?

7/19/2006 8:41 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

It seems to show a that the Pro_Expletive left is so repugnant that traditional republican backers have opened their wallets to prevent Ned and his Nuts from entering the politcal arena.

Furthermore, Lamont having to match his donations, means he isn't getting enough donations from his followers. Awww. Po' little nedheads.

1) People and Pacs that don't support Dems have been inspired to to contribute to Joe. It's showing they won't support Ned and his PottyMouth Whacked-out bloggers. Remember bringing the kissing heads to the AFL-CIO meeting? Did you PO their industry owners too? Looks like the NedHeads have POed everyone whose got a deep wallet.

2) Where's the beef? Well, maybe that should be cabbage? The NedHeads ain't doin' enough so now Neddy has to cough up the rest--again--on his own. Everytime he adds his own dime he reduces the number percentage of the bucks the NedHeads raise. That's really DUMB! 'Cause now it pencils out to declining percentages and adds up to Neddy trying to buy his way into an election.

Is that dam leak getting bigger? What new cracks will be in the dam tomorrow?

7/19/2006 9:05 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

7/19/2006 9:12 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

holy rabid lambs - did you guys see the lamont people have raised almost 100 g's today?

7/19/2006 9:20 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Good point. On the topic of fundraising, I'd like to point out to any Lamont supporters (I am not one..) that they're having a 2 for 1 thing over at the Lamont site.

Please help them as much as you can. The way Lieberman is dumping the negative crap on them they're going to need all the help they can get.

7/19/2006 9:32 PM  
Anonymous Leksah said...

why not throw $ to defeat a center/left Demoocrat, when you can use the $ to become majority party?!
unbelievable stupidity and waste!

7/19/2006 9:46 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

It's only fair to point out that Lieberman promised to remain a Democrat just a few months ago.

We all know how that turned out.

Promises mean nothing to Joe Lieberman

Unless of course he's promised something to a Republican.

7/19/2006 9:51 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Norwalk DTC Abhors Lieberman

This is the resolution passed by the Norwalk DTC. It's interesting that the strong language used in the resolution was significantly glossed over in the news reports I've seen on it. Here it is:

July 17, 2006


Whereas Senator Joseph Lieberman sought and won the endorsement of the Connecticut Democratic Party for reelection to the office of United States Senator at its Convention in May, and

Whereas Joe Lieberman and Ned Lamont are engaged in a primary contest to be the Connecticut Democratic Party’s nominee for United States Senator, and

Whereas Ned Lamont has repeatedly stated that he would accept the decision of Democratic voters in the primary election, so that if Joe Lieberman were to prevail in the primary he would immediately endorse Senator Lieberman’s candidacy, and

Whereas Senator Lieberman has refused to abide by the decision of the Democratic voters in the upcoming primary and he has instead taken the necessary steps to run as an independent candidate, and

Whereas this action would constitute a repudiation of the will expressed by Connecticut’s Democratic voters in a primary election, and

Whereas Joe Lieberman nevertheless continues to ask for unqualified support of his candidacy from Democratic Party institutions, including the Norwalk Democratic Town Committee,

NOW THEREFORE BE IT RESOLVED THAT the Norwalk Democratic Town and City Committee hereby expresses its abhorrence of the intended action by Joe Lieberman to run against the Democratic nominee for United States Senator, if that nominee is not Joe Lieberman, and

FURTHERMORE, THAT it urges each enrolled member of the Democratic Party in Norwalk to contact Joe Lieberman and demand that he either withdraw from the Democratic primary contest forthwith or accept in advance and without qualification the democratically expressed wishes of the Democratic Party which has supported his long and successful political career.

Some pretty strong language in there, huh?

Isn't it interesting that Lieberman claims he is a Democrat, but won't pay any attention to the rules or conventions of the party?

Why would we want someone like that in Congress?

7/19/2006 10:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

l4l: great post on this over at liebermania -

money quote:

"Yes, I promise that I'll always be a Democrat. And to help me keep that promise, I NEED YOUR VOTE on August 8th! Help me win the Democratic nomination, because if I don't win, then I can't be a Democrat anymore. Promises and loyalty are one thing, but I just can't let a bunch of measley primary voters take my Senate seat away like that."


7/19/2006 10:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

seedfreak: it shows joe is a repuke in dem clothing.

7/19/2006 10:52 PM  
Anonymous Answer the Question said...

He's not a Democrat if he doesn't win the Democratic primary and runs as an Independent.

7/19/2006 10:58 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Lamontistas can't raise the bucks because they aren't earning them--it reflects a young and inexperienced following. Summer jobs don't pay too much.

It will be interesting to see the rats flee the ship in Norwalk on Aug 8.

7/20/2006 5:08 AM  
Anonymous Ditka said...

It is good to find this blog is a sea of Lamont lovers out there. Keep up the good work.

7/20/2006 7:08 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

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7/20/2006 7:35 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

why does lieberman have campaign events in secret now? sounds a lot like bush...

7/20/2006 7:36 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

It certainly will be good to see the rats fleeing the Good Ship Lieberman after Aug 8th. I do feel sorry for those people. Don't worry though, I'm sure that the skilled people here will be able to find great work at the Lamont campaign.

As an added bonus, it will probably be a lot more fun than working on the moribund Lieberman campaign.

7/20/2006 7:41 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

anonymous: From what I have heard, Lieberman has been getting rattled by things like the "Kiss Float" showing up at his events. And he has also been getting some rather pointed and difficult question from actual pissed off voters.

Evidently, these horrors are too much for him to endure. So now he sneaks in and out of our state, and invites a select group of bobble-heads to his "private" events. Yes, it does seem pretty Bush-like.

Disappointing to say the very least.

7/20/2006 8:13 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

will joe give back corporate $$$ (millions) back after aug 8th or does he keep it for himself?

7/20/2006 8:49 AM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Bill Clinton will be campaigning for Joe Lieberman--and NOT for Neddy. Awww.

7/20/2006 9:11 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, what do you know. Liebermanforlieberman again proves that he doesn't have the intelligence to actually respond to the subject of the post. I don't think he's done that once.

Proves that he's afraid of actually responding to facts, so he just sticks to reporting speculations and distortions. I guess that being a mouthpiece for the Lamont campaign doesn't require independent thought.

7/20/2006 9:29 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

There you go again.

Did anyone else here notice that in that NYT fundraising article that Lieberman's out-of-state contributions amount to 80%?

Last week Lieberman was dumping on Lamont for having 70% Pretty dumb, I'd say.

That's why we're here, folks...

7/20/2006 9:37 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

"96% of the 26K donations Lieberman's received have come from individuals, most for less than $200."

I don't care how much money comes from out-of-state for either candidate.

And why don't you comment on the topic, liebermanforlieberman? Too afraid of facing facts?

7/20/2006 9:43 AM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

I bet all the little Lamonistas wish that Joe's eighty percent was sixty or fifty. Keep screaming and wailing louder and louder--it's brought Joe a higher amount of outside donations than Ned has gotten.

As I said before, Lamont's biggest problem are his bloggers.

Thank you Lamonistas! Shout it loud and strong.

7/20/2006 9:43 AM  
Anonymous CentristDem said...

For all their talk of it, Lamontistas are afraid of "people power" when the people in question disagree with them.

So when individuals nationwide make small contributions to the Lieberman campaign, they have nothing to do but lie and claim that his campaign is run on special interest money or that his support is not somehow from real "people."

Of course, being a lifelong Democrat and progressive running now and forever as a Democrat in the one way that counts (how he caucuses), Lieberman gets plenty of support from real, "people-powered" Democrats outside the laughably self-important blogosphere.

But those facts are just to inconvenient for the Lieberhaters from them to actually face up to them.

7/20/2006 9:53 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

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7/20/2006 9:57 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Colin McEnroe says it so much more eloquently than I could.

Joe Lieberman has a Connecticut problem.

What part of this don't you understand? People everywhere are furious at Joe Lieberman because of all his selling out. And they're not all rabid lambs. I think you'll see that a great many of them are Lamont voters. Surely you get that there's going to be a hell of a lot of blowback from all those Joe misdeeds, from "The Kiss" right on down. Joe Lieberman does not represent Connecticut.

Joe Lieberman represents Joe Lieberman

We are the Liebermaniacs.

7/20/2006 10:02 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Be Sure to Stop By Liebermania!

The Official Site of Lieberman for Lieberman

7/20/2006 10:14 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

disingenuous - joe is an expert on that

7/20/2006 10:26 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Massive Bush Bounce in CT

Survey USA reports a massive George W. Bush bounce of one percent in its most recent presidential approval poll. Bush has moved up from 30% to 31% here in Connecticut.

This is sure to help his Kissin' Cousin, Joe Lieberman.

7/20/2006 11:18 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is not a Republican run so implausible? He was ready to dump the Democrats and run as an Independent. Why do you believe him and his spinners?

7/20/2006 1:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He never said he'd dump the Democrats. He always has said he'll caucus with the Democrats, which means he'll always be a Democrat in the only way that matters.

7/20/2006 1:22 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Love this in the post...

"Lieberman has said from the start that he will caucus with Democrats in the next Congress, no matter what."

So even if he loses we won't be able to pry him out of the Senate! I guess he expects Bush to decider that his presence is necessary for "national security."

Why so afraid of democracy, and why so disrespectful of the Democratic party voters? As noted above Joe should withdraw from the primary if he plans to run as an independent. His voting record in the Senate is irrelevant to this issue.

7/20/2006 11:52 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Maybe Joe will do better this time and tie for second instead of third in the primary.

Losing your home state two primaries in a row has to be tough, though.

I know, it wasn't Joe's fault he could not win his home state in 2004, it was those mean blogger's.

7/21/2006 2:20 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

He had dropped out of the race by the time CT came up, moron.

7/21/2006 2:56 PM  
Anonymous Davebo said...

" No one would question that Bernie Sanders is a progressive despite the fact that he isn't running on the Dem line."

Probably because Sanders didn't choose to run as an independant after losing the primary.

7/23/2006 8:33 AM  
Anonymous Davebo said...

"Lieberman gets plenty of support from real, "people-powered" Democrats outside the laughably self-important blogosphere."

Then surely he'll win the primary and an independant run won't be necessary right?

Unfortunately Lieberman has less faith in CT voters than you do obviously.

7/23/2006 8:36 AM  

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