Thursday, August 03, 2006

Thursday Round-Up

Say what you will, but the nastiness of the last few days made me somewhat disillusioned with the entire CT Senate race. And since I still have more furniture to put together (I have a love/hate relationship with IKEA), I'll make this quick:

Excellent article on the blogosphere, partisanship, and ideology over at The American Prospect:

The netroots could be right that full-throated liberalism is compatible with Democratic electoral success. There may be no reason to worry that Feingold blew away the competition in the latest Daily Kos presidential straw poll. But netroots members should care about whether they are right or not, and make the case that they are, rather than demonize moderate elements of the party that are very bit as dedicated to building a Democratic majority as they are. If netroots activists’ assumptions about electoral viability are wrong, then despite their intentions, they are working against their stated goal. As members of the reality-based community, we all ought to be willing to step back and question our biases. Whether for the sake of the Democratic Party or for the sake of progressivism, we must.
If there's one point that I actually want to get across by Tuesday night, it is that we are all on the same side. I'll be making that point more often and more emphatically in the coming days. But at least until this race ends, I'd bet real money that few of the big-time bloggers are going to listen.

In other news, The Plank argues that Hamsher and Lamont aren't as independent as they would each like the world to believe, there's an amusingly insightful take on the race at the Thought Theater, Sundog examines Hamsher's almost/somewhat/'well, they started it' apology and also fires off a nice quip against Marshall Wittman, and a new Qunnipiac poll shows Lieberman trailing Lamont by double digits.

Anyone who doesn't think Lamont is the favorite in the primary at this point is kidding themselves, and I can't say I'm surprised given the way the Lieberman campaign has been run for the most part, and considering the prominence of the Iraq War in this race (check out the % of Lamont voters saying it's the main factor in their voting decision). I just hope there's no more friendly fire damage between now and Tuesday, but I know that's some very wishful thinking.

Kudos to Sundog and Peking Duck, who are (near as I can tell) the only blogs so far to denounce both the flyer and the blackface. I'll update and add to that list if people see more.

36 Comments:

Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Constitution State deserves a Senator that will stand up for the Constitution

8/03/2006 2:18 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Then why vote for Ned the Poodle?

8/03/2006 2:58 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Hmmm, I think I know the answer to this one. It's because Lieberman has proven that he will not stand up for our Constitution. Lamont's whole plan is to go and make an effort to restore some of our Constitutional rights, and to hold the Bush people accountable for their crimes.

Lieberman is the poodle in this race

In fact, Joe Lieberman has shown over and over again that the only thing he'll really stand up for is.. well.. Joe Lieberman.

8/03/2006 3:06 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

If there's one point that I actually want to get across by Tuesday night, it is that we are all on the same side.

But will we still all be on the same side come Wednesday morning? Lieberman lost me the second he decided to go independent and treated this primary as nothing more than a bother and an inconvenience.

8/03/2006 4:19 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lieberman, given his early decision to cut and run and jeopardize his party, will be receiving ZERO support from me or anyone I know. Whether he wins or loses on Tuesday, he's on his own.

There are Republicans I would support way before I would lend one ounce of support to Joe Lieberman.

8/03/2006 4:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Whenever you hear someone talking about Lieberman's independent bid and how it's not important what letter is next to your name... ask them how they felt about Ralph Nader voters a few years ago.

Sundog

8/03/2006 5:30 PM  
Anonymous Lamont Truth Teller said...

"It is time for Republicans in the White House and Congress who distrust Democrats to acknowledge that greater Democratic involvement and support in the war in Iraq is critical to rebuilding the support of the American people that is essential to our success in that war."

Who said that, and how long ago did Ned know it?

Looks like it's one more Neddie won't be getting.

http://www.countytimes.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=17010693&BRD=2303&PAG=461&dept_id=478976&rfi=6

8/03/2006 5:38 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

The Constitution State deserves a Senator that will stand up for the Constitution

8/03/2006 5:41 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

From the link above:

"With the big day rapidly approaching, it's all about the votes now. Nothing more, nothing less."
Those are not the words of U.S. Sen. Joe Lieberman, which will be obvious to anyone who knows the senator or is familiar with his record over the past 18 years. Mr. Lieberman would never say any situation is about nothing more than votes.


Very forthright. Very creditable. That must be why he put so much energy into the last minute push, hiring out-of-state workers because he didn't have enough of his own.

Excuse me. Lieberman is a politician. If Lieberman isn't thinking VOTES every minute of every day right now, it's strictly because he intends to issue a Signing Statement about the primary and ignore the will of the people anyway.

Sundog

8/03/2006 5:50 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Call the editor and tell them your point of view.

8/03/2006 5:58 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why? His mind is made up.

It's a ridiculous point. If you're a politician and you aren't thinking about votes a few days before a primary where you are behind in the polls,, guess what, buddy - you're in the wrong line of work.

8/03/2006 6:07 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Signed, Sundog!

PS - Just watching Lamont knock it ot of the park on Colbert Report. Only one thing can save Joe now - fill that empty chair Colbert is saving for him.

8/03/2006 6:09 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

" Why? His mind is made up.

It's a ridiculous point. If you're a politician and you aren't thinking about votes a few days before a primary where you are behind in the polls,, guess what, buddy - you're in the wrong line of work."

I have no idea if his mind is made up or not--give him a call and be convincing enough that the editorial staff will call a meeting to change their opinion and give it all for Ned.

It will never happen if you don't try.

SF--who's little engine could, still does and all ways will ;-)

8/03/2006 6:30 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Convincing a newspaper editor isn't my job - as someone pointed out, I'm nobody. You posted it here so I answered it here. I'm far more interested in whatever we can all get going communication-wise HERE.

Goodnight, have a good one.

Sundog

8/03/2006 6:46 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

That's the problem--you think you can't do it.

I can move mountains. Why? Because I know I can. Why? Because I tried when someone many said I couldn't.

Only one voice ever need be heard to have someone understand the thought. Said well, anything can be changed. Even the opines of mountains.

SF--who reaps what is sown.

8/03/2006 7:00 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

8/03/2006 7:07 PM  
Anonymous Lamont Truth Teller said...

Ned and his NUTS! They're quite a pair.

8/03/2006 7:37 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Paid Lieberman Brownshirts Go On Rampage At Ned Event

Well folks, I believe that I have just encountered the stench of desperation in the air this evening. Amazingly enough, the Lieberman people are making some kind of coordinated effort to pick fights with Lamont and staff at Lamont's campaign events.

Matt Stoller lays the whole mess out at MyDD

It looks like the Lieberman campaign is trying to recapture that Old Time Stormtrooper Spirit once again.

How Remarkably Sad.

8/03/2006 7:38 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Sounds to me like the AnimalHouse Heads have ired the public to the point where they have had enough of the juvenile teen crap.

Good.

8/03/2006 7:45 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well - it looks like the "College Republicans" have arrived...

8/03/2006 7:48 PM  
Blogger SeedFreak said...

Maybe, a little bird will know where Lamont will always be well before he gets there.

8/03/2006 7:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lamont doesn't campaign "in secret" the way Reichsmarshal Lieberman does.

8/03/2006 7:53 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Good point. Another point -

Can you even imagine the invective that the Lieberdems would unleash if the Lamont people actually DID unleash this kind of Brownshirting at a Lieberman event?

Seedfreak would have the vapors, rattling of post after post of God Knows What. They would all demand Ned Lamont's head on a platter.

I guess it all just goes to show you "It's Okay If You're A Republican".

Or Joe Lieberman - which is the same thing.

8/03/2006 8:10 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

the desperation of Joe and his paid goons is obvious.

GO NED!!!!

8/03/2006 8:34 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Quickest way to get rid of the College Republicans is to invite some Army recruiters to the party.

8/03/2006 8:41 PM  
Anonymous Badger said...

Awww! Turns out the Ned Lamont campaign and his supporters can dish it out but they can't take it. The lefty blogosphere is waxing indignant because Lieberman supporters disrupted a Ned Lamont campaign stop. Funny. If that had been reversed, they would running videos and chortling about how "Holy Joe" lost his cool. Turn about is fair play, I say.

8/03/2006 8:51 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Correction to "badger" post

The truth is that according to the accounts Lamont never did lose his cool.

Also, I would point out that "the bloggers" have not been physically violent. The Lieberman people have really crossed the line into Brownshirting.

Gotta Love That Stormtrooper Spirit!

8/03/2006 8:56 PM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Lieberman Campaign Drops GOTV Operations

"Facing a likely defeat, Lieberman has scrapped plans for a massive and costly get-out-the-vote operation on primary day, according to several Democratic sources. Instead, he will shift some of his resources into more television commercials designed to highlight his accomplishments for the state, in hopes of boosting his battered image."

Link:
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/08/03/AR2006080300597.html

I believe this may explain the "change in tone" that we've seen today in the Lieberman campaign.

Gotta Love That Old-Time Stormtrooper Spirit!

8/03/2006 9:04 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Thank God Joe is so principled....

8/03/2006 9:14 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Why is it that when Lamont supporters come up and scream at Joe, it's "voters expressing their outrage," but when Lieberman supporters scream at Ned, it's "Stormtrooper tactics?"

Seriously. Please answer me that.

8/03/2006 9:35 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Well, it's because of the violence.

And because of the coordinated shouting and harrassment. "the bloggers" have asked questions. True, they are unpleasant questions that Senator Shortride doesn't like. But they've been asked respectfully, and without shouting or bloodshed.

That, friend, is the difference.

For most of these "Lieberman/blogger" encounters, there's YouTube footage, so that you can see what I mean:

http://youtube.com/groups_videos?name=nedlamont

8/03/2006 9:42 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

8/03/2006 10:35 PM  
Blogger babablacksheep said...

Joe Lieberman's despicable strategy is to make this campaign look "nasty" as Matt Smith describes it in his front page post.

The hope is that the public will say that Lamont has brought all this nastiness on by challenging Lieberman, and that if the campaign is nasty, both sides will be blamed, suppressing the turnout (to Lieberman's advantage).

But the public has seen Ned and his ads and I think they will not buy it. Ned's parody ad about not being able to make coffee and sing Karaoke was a brilliant pre-emptive move to make it hard for Lieberman to succeed in attacking him and in showing good natured humor in the face of Lieberman's angry and personal attacks.

Ned of course gets to take the high road during the final days, focusing on issues and sending an upbeat message.

Lieberman will of course continue with his under the radar Rovian dirty tricks, but I think they will continue to be counter-productive for him.

8/04/2006 5:31 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Lord Lieberman is the Dean Scream of 2006

8/04/2006 6:05 AM  
Blogger LiebermanForLieberman said...

Wow - Rolling Stone Article on Lieberman

This Rolling Stone article eviscerates Joe Lieberman and the DLC, discussing my own main problem with Joe - he is a sellout:

"The scene says everything you need to know about the modern Democratic Party. It spends its weekdays sucking off the Pentagon and Wall Street and the pharmaceutical industry, and on the weekends it comes out and spends five minutes getting teary-eyed for the "I have a dream" speech and thinks you owe it your vote because of it. Some party members agree, but quite a few don't, which is why Joe Lieberman—the hawkish one-time vice-presidential candidate who has made himself the most visible symbol of the "new" Democrats—is facing a surprising primary challenge on August 8th. Like Lieberman himself, the "I was there in the Sixties" act is finally getting old.

"I hate the Sixties, and I'm tired of hearing about it—what have you done for me lately?" says Regina Meade, one of the churchgoers. She shakes her head. "I lost a cousin in the war. Twenty-nine years old. What about that? What about that?"

[...]

What is important to remember about Joe Lieberman is that his individual personality is incidental. Lieberman is just another "winner" to be rolled off the line and served up to Democratic voters by the behind-the-scenes corporate masters bent on controlling both sides of Washington politics, using whatever scare tactics necessary to ensure success. He's a pawn and a stooge whom they've gotten good mileage out of so far because he happens to have a special talent for being just the kind of officious, self-righteous prick you have to be to sell their muddled policies in public—but his time is up now, and not because of him but because of them. People are tired of being told who can and cannot win. As it turns out, they get to decide that for themselves.


Amen to that.

8/04/2006 6:58 AM  
Blogger Sundog said...

Seedfreak, good morning. I have to point out the illogic of expecting violence from the crazy leftists if they don't win, and then when a bit of a scrap comes from YOUR side, you say "good".

Can't have it both ways, you know.

8/04/2006 7:20 AM  

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